Why mathematicians are boycotting their biggest conference

(scientificamerican.com)

36 points | by nickcotter 1 hour ago

6 comments

  • beloch 34 minutes ago
    "The petition follows months of trepidation about the congress within the math community. “You do not get 1,500 signatures in 10 days without having many, many mathematicians already registering their complaints to their professional societies and to the ICM organizers,” says Ila Varma, a mathematician at the University of Toronto and one of the petition’s co-authors."

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    ICM's peak attendance is around four thousand, so 1,500 would-be attendees signing a petition to move the conference in ten days is pretty authoritative.

  • amelius 56 minutes ago
  • jleyank 1 hour ago
    Nobody will care if the conference isn’t held in Philly. Holding it elsewhere will probably make it a little easier and possibly a little cheaper for people to attend. I doubt mathematicians are part of the 1%, so cash and travel hassle should matter. And given today’s Internet, there’s going to be remote attendance which can happen most anywhere.

    While it’s still convenient to gather together to discuss a field, it’s not crucial as it was in past times. Easier to do what’s best for the largest number of people.

    • ktallett 51 minutes ago
      Huh? This is primarily because travelling to the US is not worth the risk right now.
    • FridayoLeary 46 minutes ago
      It's just grandstanding.They are mathematicians not political activists. If they want their organization to slide into irrelevance, getting involved in left wing (or right wing, but with academia it's usually left wing) politics is a great way to do that.
      • tdeck 16 minutes ago
        Anyone can be a "political activist". An activist is just an ordinary person who has had enough. Unless you believe the only valid way to influence political discourse is with money.
  • nullc 48 minutes ago
    I'm going to guess that for many signers-- or at least the US ones-- their opposition to the United States and "its unbridled hatred" doesn't extend to not accepting funding from the US taxpayer.

    Entry requirements and the overhead of dealing with visa hoops are a perennial problem for international conferences, nothing new-- and presumably a part of why it hasn't been held in the US in recent memory. But the language on this petition is particularly extreme.

    • dhosek 34 minutes ago
      Ain’t much US taxpayer money going to mathematicians and I think that if any goes overseas it would be to US citizens.
  • hereme888 40 minutes ago
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    • blipvert 37 minutes ago
      Maybe they are not fans of American citizens being shot in the face?
      • hereme888 29 minutes ago
        Which specific incident are you referring to? Not the one where the American citizen tried to run over the ICE agent with her car, right?
    • Vasbarlog 36 minutes ago
      Iraqis and Libyans too.
    • oulipo2 35 minutes ago
      You seem to be the one disconnected from reality here...