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  • jmward01 2 hours ago
    It is rare that I say this but, thanks MS! Arguably just as, if not more, important is the BASIC that they wrote. That was what they actually wanted to do. DOS just got them the contract with IBM. For decades MS was really a developer tools company with a side biz of writing operating systems and other misc software. They also open sourced that BASIC code too [1].

    [1] https://opensource.microsoft.com/blog/2025/09/03/microsoft-o...

  • gnabgib 4 hours ago
    Discussion, on the source, at the time (79 points, 24 days ago, 19 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47957494

    Or on the GitHub clone (162 points, 15 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47946813

  • locusofself 3 hours ago
    wow, they had to OCR it back in from paper printouts

    > This source code is old enough that it hadn’t been stored digitally. “A dedicated team of historians and preservationists led by Yufeng Gao and Rich Cini,” calling itself the “DOS Disassembly Group,” painstakingly transcribed and scanned in code from paper printouts provided by Paterson. This process was made even more difficult because modern OCR software struggled with the quality of the decades-old printout.

    • FarmerPotato 2 hours ago
      I'd like to hear more about what works in OCR of dot-matrix fonts.

      I've been able to OCR letter-quality printer output to 97% (mostly Os and Xs problems).

      But it seems that machine-learning text-recognition is also now biased to reject computer code because it doesn't look like human language.

    • SoftTalker 3 hours ago
      Yet another case where text printed on paper outlived any digital storage.
      • jshier 3 hours ago
        Seems like it was never digitally stored in the first place, and the printed text was barely readable due to age. Not really a big win for paper.
        • SoftTalker 2 hours ago
          Well it had to have been on disk or tape at some point. It wasn't all typed in by hand every time they needed to build a new version.
        • zargon 2 hours ago
          The idea that it never existed digitally is obviously untrue. Likely poor wording in the author's part. They probably meant something like, so old that a printout is all that survived (which sounds vaguely like not being digital to someone in an era so far removed from a time when programs were/could realistically be printed.)
          • fc417fc802 27 minutes ago
            > a time when programs were/could realistically be printed

            Really depends on the program. Source code is often quite manageable. Even artifacts aren't always as large as you might expect. Busybox on my system weighs in at 1.9 MiB or alternatively 928 KiB with zstd maxed out.

            But I don't really see a point to printing any of it. A situation that might require the printouts is likely to largely preclude the continued existence of modern electronics, the ability to replace batteries, or even a connection to a reliable electrical grid.

            • zargon 15 minutes ago
              Yeah, that's why I tried to include both categories. Even for programs that are small enough to be printed, we just don't do it any more. I could have worded that part better myself.
        • irishcoffee 36 minutes ago
          How did they print it then, I wonder?
      • petcat 2 hours ago
        > struggled with the quality of the decades-old printout.

        barely

        It sounds like this printout has deteriorated badly and was barely readable.

  • dang 4 hours ago
    Recent and related:

    Microsoft open sources DOS 1.00 on 45th anniversary - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47957494 - April 2026 (19 comments)

  • Tanayk07 31 minutes ago
    I wonder how long it'll be before they release the source for the earliest Windows versions. The fact that they still have the source for this very old DOS at least gives hope that they also d
  • teamsolid 3 hours ago
    It is wonderful how early years of modern computing was brilliant. We treated machines as they really are: machines. Performance, creativity, science..., all possible to make a 386 machine work. Nowadays is all about libraries, virtualization, [bad] code over [bad] code over [bad] code..., I dont like it.
    • dhosek 2 hours ago
      I sometimes think that my mental model of a computer is still an Apple ][+ with 48K of RAM leads to my writing better code.
  • userbinator 4 hours ago
    I wonder how long it'll be before they release the source for the earliest Windows versions. The fact that they still have the source for this very old DOS at least gives hope that they also do for old Windows.
    • GaryBluto 1 hour ago
      The day they would make Windows 2000 codebase open source (or source available) would be the day I could die happy (although I'd probably be long dead anyways by the time there's a glimmerof chance of it happening). What a beautiful, smooth-running operating system it was.
      • optymizer 1 hour ago
        Agreed. It's still my favorite Windows version.
      • londons_explore 1 hour ago
        There is a mostly complete leak of it...
    • protocolture 43 minutes ago
      I imagine its not far off. I get the impression they are almost done with windows as a platform.
    • teamsolid 3 hours ago
      I am sure that there is a lot good material to take inspiration and learning even from the early Windows 3.11.
      • mycall 3 hours ago
        Do a deep dive into how OS/360 formalized to having DOS.
      • SoftTalker 3 hours ago
        /s ?
        • AlecSchueler 31 minutes ago
          Pretty sure it's a bot or simple karma farming operation.
    • throwaway27448 2 hours ago
      They waited a couple decades too long for this to be of interest.
  • imoverclocked 3 hours ago
    Time to find vulnerabilities!

    I remember in the naughts, coming across a dos machine that was quite out of time… even for the university basement it was living in next to a pile of lead brick. Its only job was to run an instrument via an home-built ISA card and write data out to 5.25” floppies.

    What uses would this code have in 2026?

    • FarmerPotato 2 hours ago
      To see what decisions they made. Like any historical document. Aim to understand the people of the time.
  • signa11 3 hours ago
    in the words of mr. mitch-hedburg “here, you throw this away“
    • TedDoesntTalk 1 hour ago
      He could have sold those printouts instead of giving them away.
  • froyooh 3 hours ago
    Back when it was all written by hand and optimized well.
  • dooosss 2 hours ago
    Too little, too late.
  • xuzhenpeng 2 hours ago
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