10 comments

  • elil17 2 hours ago
    I would love to see real examples of what reduced quality means in practice. Are you able to recover a document from the vector in a human readable format? If so, what sort of changes come up?

    I could imagine a scenario where differences tend to be more substantive than you'd expect because of how less frequent words with fine distinctions in meaning - the very words that make the document special - may be embedded in the vector space.

    • yorwba 1 hour ago
      Most of the fine distinctions are already lost when a document is processed through a pile of linear algebra to turn it into a fixed-size list of floating-point numbers, as you can see from the NDCG@10. Vector search is not a tool for fine distinctions. It's a tool for reducing a large pile of documents to a smaller selection of candidates, which you can then check individually with some more expensive method.
  • purple-leafy 2 hours ago
    Hey breadislove; amazing article, I’ll be sending mixedbread an email in the morning that may interest you (email will be <5-characters>@pm.me)

    I have also been working in compression and performance engineering, and managed to get a 99+% compression unlock versus conventional approaches (100+KB down to 1KB) in the scenario of 30 minute massive multiplayer game replays for a “game+engine” I’m developing

    I think there’s a synergy between these 2 concepts I’d love to chat some more

  • nathan_compton 22 minutes ago
    " A single document produces more then one embedding, depending on the complexity of the document it can produce hundreds or thousands of vectors."

    That typo up there is kind of endearing in the AI slop era.

  • rq1 2 hours ago
    The Pi compression algorithm is better.
  • functionmouse 1 hour ago
    there is no such thing as "near lossless"
    • ttoinou 1 hour ago
      There is, after you define what you’re ready to loose and understand the lossy space. That’s how we came up with mobile cellphones, audio and video codecs etc. Literally powering all modern devices we use.
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  • Ameo 4 hours ago
    I can't wait until we get to 100% storage/cost/compute reduction for LLMs. Every thought you could have thought pre-conceived in high-fidelity super-resolution. Every action you could have taken predicted and simulated in advance courtesy of Openthropic and the USA Sovereign Wealth Fund.
    • throwaway2027 1 hour ago
      You would obviously be trading storage for compute and time to retrieve the storage.
    • throwaw12 3 hours ago
      100% reduction is impossible for something which should work, because -100% means it is now 0
      • neonstatic 3 hours ago
        They were clearly being sarcastic
    • peheje 3 hours ago
      Reminds me of 'Learning to be me' by Greg Egan