Active incident at Dreamhost forcing password reset

(dreamhoststatus.com)

81 points | by greenchair 8 hours ago

9 comments

  • duskwuff 2 hours ago
    Reading the tea leaves: given that the outage started with "connectivity issues affecting the File Manager", which was an install of Monsta FTP [1] - a commercial PHP application - I suspect the file manager got popped by one of the recently published PHP vulnerabilities, and users' FTP credentials may have been exfiltrated.

    [1]: https://www.monstaftp.com/

    • traeregan 1 hour ago
      20 year customer here. This morning I asked their support chatbot if this is related to the PHP vulnerabilities and it assured me that's not the case. I'm skeptical.

      These status updates from the PHP incident would also have us believe that they were never directly affected: https://www.dreamhoststatus.com/pages/incident/575f0f6068263...

      They're being awfully vague about this issue so far. 8 hours ago I submitted a ticket requesting more information and they've not responded yet. I guess that they're still in the thick of it.

      • pixl97 46 minutes ago
        Why would their support chatbot know?

        Having worked in support for years quite often higher layers of the company will give T1 support almost no information on what happened intentionally. That's pretty standard corporate CYA policy in litigious societies.

        • traeregan 10 minutes ago
          I didn't think that it would know but their support UX funnels you through it so that's where I started. I followed it up with a ticket.
    • MuffinFlavored 2 hours ago
      hopefully their hashed/salted passwords, right? not plaintext?
      • duskwuff 2 hours ago
        Internally, sure. But the application that was (probably) compromised was an FTP client, so it would have received the plain text of those passwords from users as they logged in.
        • trollbridge 1 hour ago
          For those customers who are still logging in with FTP…

          As a precaution they reset everyone’s email passwords, presumably from an assumption people use the same ones for both.

          I’m surprise they still let people use FTP.

          • jacquesm 56 minutes ago
            I came across such a thing recently. The counterparty was a bank, and they point blank refused to update their processes so the people I talked to had no choice but to continue to use something they knew was hopelessly outdated. SFTP was released what, 3 decades ago or so? There is a good chance that whatever was on the other side of that upload was not capable of any kind of secure connection.
  • paulbjensen 1 hour ago
    Dreamhost - gosh that brings back memories…
  • hmokiguess 31 minutes ago
    I migrated all my stuff from dreamhost about 5 years ago, got this email today and felt validated from having made that decision.
  • whyage 3 hours ago
    What's going on with Dreamhost lately? Is it falling apart?
    • AznHisoka 2 hours ago
      I havent seen anyone talk about it for the last 10-15 yrs. I would have guessed it fell apart already
      • PaulDavisThe1st 2 hours ago
        They abandoned all support for email lists a couple of months back. Will likely move after 20+ years on DH.
        • trollbridge 1 hour ago
          Chat support works well. Email is nonexistent.
          • PaulDavisThe1st 58 minutes ago
            I don't mean "support for using mailing lists". I meant "they no longer provide the services (i.e. mailman) to run mailing lists"
    • trollbridge 1 hour ago
      No, they’re still doing well.

      Support is primarily via chat these days.

      Pricing wise they don’t beat Herzner anymore but are somewhat competitive with Digital Ocean.

      I am gradually moving everyone to my own self hosting mostly for supportability reasons. We want to react in seconds, not hours, when a customer has an issue.

    • forgotmypw17 2 hours ago
      Working pretty well for me.
      • donohoe 2 hours ago
        Same. Into my second decade with them. Great value, no real complaints.
  • forgotmypw17 2 hours ago
    Ah, I noticed this yesterday, figured it was just me.
  • therein 3 hours ago
    Now that's a blast to the past. What's next, Rapidshare.de is having issues?
    • tuwtuwtuwtuw 2 hours ago
      Angelfire shut down this year so not them at least.
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    • jawns 3 hours ago
      I've been a user for more than 20 years. With their shared hosting plan, which was about $5/mo. when I joined and is now $13/mo, I've been able to host my personal blog and professional site, as well as probably 3 dozen other sites over the years, including several that have hit the HN front page and never got hugged by the squeeze of death.

      Honestly, compared to some of the professional environments I've worked in, it's a joy to have an idea, create a few PHP files, and in a matter of seconds have that idea live.

    • rpdillon 3 hours ago
      Been a customer for decades, love them.
      • 0898 3 hours ago
        Do you remember the cool newsletters they used to do?
    • ceejayoz 3 hours ago
      A shitload of small business sites that were built years ago and haven't been touched since.
      • SoftTalker 3 hours ago
        If they are static sites that shouldn't be a problem. Many are probably not though.
        • ceejayoz 3 hours ago
          My suspicion is at least half are unpatched WordPress installs.
          • Jgrubb 3 hours ago
            My suspicion is closer to 95%
            • Kwpolska 1 hour ago
              And the remaining 5% are unpatched Joomla and Drupal installs.
    • pockybum522 2 hours ago
      Me, for all the reasons listed so far in comments
    • Arainach 3 hours ago
      It's cheap and reliable with predictable costs. It hasn't caused me any problems in a decade. Most of the websites I want to host don't need cloud anything, they're statically generated.