CNC Stone Carving

(carmelitegothic.com)

108 points | by bschne 1 hour ago

11 comments

  • weirdish 12 minutes ago
    I've always wondered why we haven't seen a broad architectural movement returning to highly ornate decorative facades now that technology has made this kind of thing (more) possible. We could be having so much more fun in architecture right now!
    • toddmorey 7 minutes ago
      This has been my hope for a while! I live in a 1911 house and the amount of small detail everywhere would be impossibly expensive by modern construction standards. I also like modern minimalism, but I know many of the drywall corners everywhere in modern homes aren't design decisions as much as cost savings measures.
  • shellfishgene 42 minutes ago
    Wow, the monks are not messing around either, they built a full monastery with cathedral and all in gothic style! https://newmountcarmelfoundation.org/building-a-mountain-mon...
  • wolframhempel 8 minutes ago
    Before anyone complains that this removes the human aspect of art, it's worth stressing that sculptors have always looked for ways to automate work and save time (as the website itself points out).

    As far back as ancient Egypt, grids and measuring tools were used to reproduce figures at different scales. Roman workshops churned out copies of Greek statues in marble and bronze, using casts and moulds. From the 18th century onwards, sculptors used outright pointing machines to transfer models into marble. James Watt, the steam engine guy, even built a mechanical sculpture-copying machine that could (somewhat) automatically reproduce reliefs and medallions.

    Gothic architectural decoration wasn't about expressing the inner world of its makers in the way we think of art today. Much of it was produced by large masonry workshops using standardized geometry, wooden templates and repeated designs.

    So, yeah, using a CNC machine is truly Gothic.

    • RobotToaster 6 minutes ago
      What's more gothic than dark satanic mills
  • vessenes 1 hour ago
    Oooh this is cool. Create gothic-esque designs in stone construction using CNC. I like the apology right at the top: "medieval builders were always on the forefront of technology". Word.
  • nrh 53 minutes ago
    Anyone who digs this should take a look at the art (and process) of Barry X Ball. https://www.barryxball.com/ https://www.instagram.com/barryxballstudio/
    • idbnstra 45 minutes ago
      or monumental labs
  • roughly 23 minutes ago
    This is both incredible and I think… “misses the point” is the wrong phrase, but maybe omits something both subtle and crucial in the process.

    A gothic cathedral is both an incredible work of art and also the work of hundreds or thousands of hands over decades and centuries - you are looking not just at the final product, but at the love and commitment it took to make that work of art, the long-term dedication and belief that it should exist even if we don’t live to see it exist. You’re looking at an expression of love not just for God and for art and beauty, but for future generations and people we’ll never know. The time and effort isn’t an unfortunate part of the process, it’s intrinsic to what we feel when we witness the cathedral - a connection to others, reaching both ways.

    I understand why the monks have developed this technique, and I don’t disagree with them - the act of building a gothic cathedral is outside the capacity of modern society. I’ll never begrudge someone a hack to preserve some beauty in this machine we’ve created. But I can’t help but feel like they’ve created a facsimile of a cathedral - they’ve created the palace at Disneyland, not Versailles.

    • whatthejesus 5 minutes ago
      The proportions, materials, overall design is quite beautiful. How is that not an expression to God? Having a few hundred people die falling off of scaffolding and taking 50 years to build is not helping anyone today.

      Perhaps a few dead bodies and a couple hundred years of recitations will do the trick?

      Put another way, if monks in the year 1k had a CNC router like this, they wouldn’t have peasants take 50 years to arrive at their expression to God.

      It’s the architecture and the design that reflects the Lord almighty. The peasants doing it are a means to an end: so the church stands tall, so they can massacre the non-believers, burn witches, infidels, and imprison astronomers.

    • venzaspa 6 minutes ago
      Not every building with stone carvings will be gothic cathedrals with regular incomes- there will be thousands of small churches out there, which don't have the budget for expensive stonemasons to hand carve items for repairs.

      If we want to protect historic buildings for generations to enjoy then we're going to need to be more pragmatic.

    • zehaeva 15 minutes ago
      I do agree with you over all, but I am not certain it's outside the capacity of modern society. You only need to look at the group in France[0] where they are building a medieval castle using only period appropriate tools and techniques. It is more of a research project than an act of devotion, but I think it demonstrates that we are still capable of such acts.

      [0] https://www.guedelon.fr/en/

    • tantalor 16 minutes ago
      Not that I disagree, but I want to confirm: you are suggesting the reason (or one of the reasons) they chose to do stone carving, as opposed to some other form of monastic pursuit, was because it took a lot of time and effort?
    • throwaway219450 5 minutes ago
      > But I can’t help but feel like they’ve created a facsimile of a cathedral - they’ve created the palace at Disneyland, not Versailles.

      You could at least compare to Notre Dame. It’s a bit tone deaf to draw comparison to Versailles, which was a vanity project to glorify the French monarchy.

  • opengrass 38 minutes ago
    For a second I thought the guy at the computer is the CNC statue.
  • yendor44 1 hour ago
    This is the same group of monks that run mystic monk coffee. I'm very fond of the Paradiso blend and am currently warming up to the thanksgiving blend though it wasn't my favorite at the start of the bag.
  • smstl 47 minutes ago
    Adore everything about this
  • kvjbj 6 minutes ago
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  • dyauspitr 56 minutes ago
    When AI wipes out programming jobs over the next few years, do you think we will see a revival in the number of young men going into monkhood?
    • Oarch 44 minutes ago
      I think robotically driven historic building renovation is one of the safest jobs.

      1. Loads of pent up historic demand 2. Work is complex, sensitive and physical. 3. There's more history every day!

    • ramesh31 14 minutes ago
      >"When AI wipes out programming jobs over the next few years, do you think we will see a revival in the number of young men going into monkhood?"

      The church historically absorbed excess males in this way and gave them a dignified purpose in life, it's not a crazy thought at all.

      • Maken 4 minutes ago
        Concretely it absorbed and excess of male heirs so they could live a comfy life and would not try an hostile takeover over their elder brothers' state.